Hi, I live and work at a meditation center outside of Sedona. We are currently upgrading ourselves from consious housing to an eco-friendly retreat center. While we are currently composing in our kitchen, changing our pool to saline, run a grey water system for land scaping and are attempting to green house keeping, I would appriciate some friendly tips from people out there who are more knowledgable about taking a large facility and turning it green.

Much love!

Pine
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Pine
Arizona
  • Re: Suggestions for hotel going green?

    Mon, April 14, 2008 - 9:04 AM
    There's a million things you can do! It's so comprehensive that it's hard to know where to begin, so I suggest you start with knowing that for every material you use there's a green alternative. If you're doing any renovations you can incorporate green materials and designs.

    I would suggest making a master plan for future renovations and when the time comes you'll have a good idea of how you're going to do it. I also suggest downloading a copy of the green building guidelines at stopwaste.org or builditgreen.org.

    Dan
    • Re: Suggestions for hotel going green?

      Mon, April 14, 2008 - 11:54 AM
      i like this idea Dan.

      ... having a master-plan list of opportunities for upgrade with eco-friendly and green tech.

      & then when you have the capital and labor, invest.
      • Re: Suggestions for hotel going green?

        Thu, April 17, 2008 - 5:18 AM
        One of the things bigger hotel chains do is offer the option NOT to have your bed linens and towels changed EVERY day. It's so wasteful! How many of us change our stuff at home every day?

        Luxury hotels are a pretty wasteful industry, but I think nothing beats *catering* and the amount of stuff -- both food and "disposable" plastic items -- it throws away.
  • Re: Suggestions for hotel going green?

    Wed, April 23, 2008 - 2:43 PM
    I would worry about the saline pool. Water is a big concern in the area. The pool could be an emergency water supply if it is not poisoned with salt. Is the pool safe from being flooded to overflowing during the monsoons? Hum "HI" to the red rocks for me.
  • Re: Suggestions for hotel going green?

    Wed, April 23, 2008 - 7:53 PM
    Offer local foods as much as possible... maybe that ends up being prickly pear jam and desert honey, but at least its a start and eliminates the long distance transport. Plus its *sooo* much more satisfying purchasing food from the producer.

    Be packaging concious of everything that you use.. if after recycling everything thats recycleable and composting the compostable stuff you are left with a lot of waste.. investigate the source of that waste.. maybe there's alternatives?

    Compact Florescents/LED lighting.. though they sometimes give off horrible light color, there are versions that are equivalent to incandescents. Though there's always the what to do with the bulbs when they burn out issue..

    If you are doing any remodeling or construction become keenly aware of passive solar/wind design. Super old technology that can reduce impact merely by implementing good ideas.. my favorite example comes from the middle east: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windcatcher

    Solar water heaters and pool heaters of course would be wise as well.. take advantage of all that sun!
    • Re: Suggestions for hotel going green?

      Sat, April 26, 2008 - 12:20 AM
      What about using tadelakt (Moroccan plaster) instead of marble and other granite surfaces.
      Tadelakt, or tadelak seems to me to be the best option to not only decorate but protect your walls from humidity.
      This clay plaster is made of lime and olive oil and polished by stones, it's so beautiful and absorbs humidity, that's what they use in Morocco in the hammams (Turkish baths).
      Here is more info about tadeklakt
      moroccan-plasterer.blogspot.com/
      (scroll down to see pictures of that yellow room, tadelakt has the look of marble, shiny and velvety).
      Back when I lived in France a friend of mine got his training as a tadelakt master and he works for rich people who want to have an alternative to marble, but tadelakt has so many advantages.
      It's beautiful, natural, eco friendly and again absorbs humidity,, it's a dream in a bathroom.
      I'd love to know what you guys think of it AND hopefully this technique could spread a bit more.

      S.
      • Re: Suggestions for hotel going green?

        Mon, April 28, 2008 - 12:20 PM

        This may sound trivial, but don't install auto-feed paper hand towel dispensers in restrooms. In my observation, they tend to provoke people to use more towels than otherwise, because they often auto feed as a result of ANY movement nearby.

        Paper products, such as napkins, towels, place mats, coasters, brochures, unnecessary FAXes, etc., represent a huge waste of resources.

        Please implement reusable items where ever possible.

        Thanks for givin' a damn.

        DO
        • Re: Suggestions for hotel going green?

          Mon, April 28, 2008 - 12:53 PM
          And compost your paper as much as possible!
          • Re: Suggestions for hotel going green?

            Mon, April 28, 2008 - 1:08 PM
            Make sure you only compost the chemical free paper. We don't want to be putting all the chemical laden stuff back into the earth, like white paper. That stuff has so much bleaching agent in it to destroy your compost pile.
            • Re: Suggestions for hotel going green?

              Mon, April 28, 2008 - 2:06 PM
              Many hotels are trying little cards in bathrooms encouraging people to re-use their towels, saving water should come as 2nd nature in the desert but alot of those tourists in Sedona don't come from around here and don't realize the fragile state of man in our desert. I find them re-assuring that industry cares about water and all the energy it takes to re-purify it again.
  • Re: Suggestions for hotel going green?

    Wed, April 30, 2008 - 9:29 AM
    Thank you all so much for your suggestions! Most of what was suggested has been in effect for many years, but it great to know that we have been doing somethings right.

    I am not sure what construction does. They are an entitey in and of themselves ^_^ But the majority of our construction works with the natural lay of the land and is designed to help us catch the water when it rains. Other than the old buildings from when we bought the property, everything seems to be working with the environment. I don't think we are perfect by any standards, though, so there is always room for improvement!

    As for the saline pool, I think we should be okay. We have many ponds created from caught rainwater and our gray water system. Our concern was redusing the use of chlorine. But thank you so much for your concern! We'll see if the local health department lets us change over.

    Thank you Story, for the comment about the Moroccan plaster. We currently are doing something similar with the supplies for plaster that come naturally to the local environment, but you are right, your friends work is gorgeous. I would be concerned that such pretty white walls would be need to have constant washing because of the red sand out here, though.

    Also! Good news! Our entire housekeeping department is now using 100% eco-friendly products-- from the toilet paper to the floor cleaner. The bar soaps are going, and the little prewrapped cups, and they are being replaced by soap desepsers and reusable cups. My vision for the next month is to change our offices and front desk towards using 100% eco-friendly products.

    If you have any other ideas, please do not hesitate to suggest them! They are so incredibly helpful to this process.
    • Re: Suggestions for hotel going green?

      Fri, May 2, 2008 - 11:26 PM
      Pine, about the chlorine, my very good friend Doug Campbell sells wonderful systems that are chlorine free, you have to speak to him, he'll explain and guide you and so on, he's so competent, I overhear him sometimes (our daughter are super good friends) and he sells and talks to people from all around the country, lots in Florida of course but he's based here in Santa Cruz, CA.
      Tell him you know the "French Sandy" and check out what he has to say and offer:
      www.airwaterbestprices.com/

      All these efforts for going green are so inspirational!
      Keep on the good work and yay for conscious businesses!

      Peace,
      S.
  • Re: Suggestions for hotel going green?

    Wed, April 30, 2008 - 8:55 PM
    you might also check out the green hotel association's website. www.greenhotels.com/

    i have read about hotels that require that the door key card be placed in another slot m once you are inside the room to turn on lights, ac, etc. this prevents lights and ac from being left on when no one is in the room.

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